Movie Retakes - Coming to America

Brothers Matt and Chris Sully talk Coming to America, then pitch their own Coming to America Retake concepts. You'll know them from the 'What's Going Down?' episode of 'That's My Momma.'

About the Movie Retakes podcast: In the cinematic sea of prequels, sequels, reboots, and re-imaginings, the Movie Retakes podcast considers the merits and desires for Hollywood's new takes on our beloved movie classics. Brothers Matt and Chris Sully examine the latest retake franchises, pitch their own original retake visions, and share their love for the movies that made them.

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Transcript

Chris Sully:   0:01
In the cinematic sea of prequels, sequels, reboots and re-imaginings. The Movie Retakes podcast considered the merits, means and desires for Hollywood's new takes on beloved movie classics. Brothers Chris and Matt Sully ask the questions - Should they make it, or should they just leaveit alone?

Chris Sully:   0:37
Mmm, always good question. Hi, this is Matt Sully here.

Chris Sully:   0:37
And this is Big Brother Chris. Sully. (audio clip) Yeah, I've done little podcasting and looking forward to continuing this one with my brother - a passion project for us both. We thought we'd do something that ah hones in on one of our favorite things in the world. And that is movies. 

Matt Sully:   0:59
This week we've got 'Coming to America' and 'Coming 2 America' ... 2.

Chris Sully:   1:04
The concept to our podcast here. I think we should probably throw that out there. Just in case is the first time listener, as we both watch the film recently and then we're going to kind of dissected a little bit, talk about it, and then we're going to each give a pitch on what we think. A sequel prequel, continuation. Ah, a series or as we like to deem it a retake of some sort. Is it necessary? And what would that be? We're gonna actually give you a pitch of our idea.

Matt Sully:   1:31
And so this is an example of something is already well, not in the works. It's done, and it's going to come out soon. 'Coming to America' 2, are rather I think it's 'Coming 2 America' with the number two, as I'm just gonna keep saying 'Coming to America 2', because otherwise it's gonna be confusing. Um Ah, 2020. Coming. I don't know whatever. Anyway, um, the sequel to 'Coming to America' will be coming out shortly. And, ah, prior to anyone seeing that Ah, it's gonna be a lot of fun to give our own pitch on what we think. Ah, the movie should be. And ah, and then later on, we'll find out how we're either miss. Right? Um was everyone wrong? Uh, did they get it right? Did we get it right? Whatever. And Ah, that'll be pretty interesting to see.

Chris Sully:   2:18
Or if they got a horribly wrong Can we just slap a big I told you so on there and read it can take our idea to Hollywood and they'll go, Hey, there's a great idea we should've gone. Yeah, I

Matt Sully:   2:27
feel like Ah, I'm hoping it's maybe 50/50 where we see the movie and we're gonna be like, You know what? That was really good. That's better than what we had pitched. And then the other times were looking up. They should have done our movie. That's Ah, I would have been better. Yeah, they'll

Chris Sully:   2:41
And maybe when they discover it's only one day, Hollywood will take notice and hire us to give some stress. Actually

Matt Sully:   2:46
will be having trouble with the script and the call on the silly brothers to come in and tweak it and get it right. Like those guys get it right every time or at least 60% of every works every time.

Chris Sully:   2:59
Yeah. Eventually, the Russo brothers will call him the Sully Brothers and we'll all collaborate. And then maybe the Wachowski siblings will get involved. I don't know what it's a family affair. One thing to note before we get too far into this is I did not. And I don't think you did either. I didn't read the synopsis. Ah, that has been dropped online for 'Coming to America' 2. I avoid it like the plague, because I didn't want to know. But then be once we decided to do this, I don't wanna be tainted by their thoughts. So I did all mine. Completely free of that. Then read.

Matt Sully:   3:31
Yeah, me too. I actually just hadn't done any following. And you really is. There's not much out there. Really? Ah. Which Ah, you know, there's different approaches to to marketing movies and stuff and ah ah ah, I am both equally afraid when there's overdone marketing. And then there's underdone marketing. I never know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, you know, and, uh, we discover it after the fact. But yeah, sometimes you can tell when the hype is all hyped because they know they're only gonna make the money on the opening weekend and then reviews. They're gonna come out in there, they're gonna cut all the marketing because that's all the money they were playing spin on. Then there's times where it's so secretive that either it's really awesome moving. They didn't want to ruin any of the gags. Ah, or it's terrible. And they didn't want to spend on the initial marketing for that opening weekend. So at this point, I haven't really seen much on it. Um, and yes, Prior to writing my own pitch, I did not read. They're synopsis, but I think we should jump in. I want to talk a little bit about the original, uh, 'Coming to America' with a too instead of a two. Ah, this movie came out in 1988. Uh, wow. And, yeah, we were alive. Then. We're very old. Um, if you haven't seen it, shame on you. I know it's like one of those classic films. Now I kiss the old folks talk about it all the time. Were the guys in the barbershop at this point? I guess, anyway, 'Coming to America '1988 here's the synopsis and extremely pampered African prints travels to Queens, New York, and goes undercover to find a wife that he can respect for her intelligence and will. And that's really that's really bad, Like that's a poorly written synopsis. But here is my hopefully worse, I guess. Written synopsis. Ah, an illegal immigrant works at McDonald's until his employees discover his fraudulent identity and he is forced to return to his country in Africa. And you had one this?

Chris Sully:   5:36
Yeah, I wrote everyone as well. I've got an unexperienced traveler and his friend visit a U S city literally by the flip of a coin to avoid their obligations and find love.

Matt Sully:   5:46
That is nice. And, uh, I guess it worked for Yeah, they spend the ah, they spend the globe, right? And ah ah, And then they have to pick where they're going. And, uh, yeah, they Where Where does where does a man Where does the king find someone where they haven't Queens.

Chris Sully:   6:04
Oh, cool. Yes, of course.

Matt Sully:   6:06
Makes perfect sense. That is a That is a pretty good gag. Like, That's funny. That's Ah,

Chris Sully:   6:11
yeah. I mean, I know the writer when they were writing, that was like, Oh, nailed it. Got. And

Matt Sully:   6:15
then they cut the cut to Queens. And it is just careful. Terrible flakes. Uh,

Chris Sully:   6:21
it's not much better now. Yeah, I remember

Matt Sully:   6:22
this movie. First time I saw it. I mean, it was I was probably way too young to see it, but it was genuinely hilarious. Uh, it's It's just it's funny now, like, you know, you watch these things and there's a lot of movies you watch as a kid and you get some of the jokes and then you watch is adult and you get some of the other chokes. And, ah, this movie really has all that. It's not really for kids at all, but there there is some basic, you know, sort of slapstick, sorta easy comedy that comes through this stuff and then you get the things you know, like the, uh, the royal penises, cleaning and all that sort of stuff where that's just hilarious. I

Chris Sully:   7:03
mean, the royal Penis is clean, Your Highness,

Matt Sully:   7:09
there's some good stuff. And this is Eddie. It is best I mean, Eddie, Eddie's been all over places. Let's talk. Let's talk about the movie. I'll get into that and, you know, obviously have a funny fondness for Eddie Murphy. I think most people do. Um, this movie has Eddie Murphy Arsenio Hall in the main roles. It's another buddy film for Eddie, his first time doing multiple characters and makeup, which you know if you've seen Nutty Professor Ah, and all these movies said he does where he plays the multiple characters. It's funny every time, and he's really good at it. Like he could do all these different things. But, I mean, that's his His stand up history. Kind of working in in there, It's it's he can take on these different personas, and he does each one of them very well. But he did it so well. So

Chris Sully:   7:54
did our

Matt Sully:   7:54
scene. You Ah, they both play a few different roles in this movie, and all of them are very, very good. Ah, and the makeups really good too. I think this was, um uh wasn't this ah baker that did Thea, I think

Chris Sully:   8:09
you're right. I think I saw that in the in the opening and was pretty pretty surprised by

Matt Sully:   8:13
Yeah, I mean, ah, you just you have him do the makeup and you're gonna be all right. Um, so ah, you know, and there's a history of Eddie here. Eddie has had several faces in his career from Ranchi standup toe action comedy movies. Ah, these smooth romantic comedies that we saw in the mid nineties too Wacky family comedies. He's done animated films and TV shows. Ah, nobody else's as prolific are able to to move from these vulgar offensive jokes that you know, if you haven't seen raw Ah, is stand up stuff from the early eighties there. Ah, you need to watch it because especially if you don't. If you don't know that, Eddie. Ah, and you've only seen the modern Eddie, then you're missing out on a whole era of him and ah, in a totally different side. You'd kind of be shocked, I think, frankly, to see to see that if you'd never seen it before And I think you were supposed to be That's the point.

Chris Sully:   9:13
If you were a child of the late eighties early nineties, you may only know him from, like the Disney and family friendly stuff and Shrek voice over work. I find it hard to believe that you could be on this planet for more than 20 years and not know that 'Coming to America,' 'Beverly Hills Cop' and 'Trading  Places' and all those even exists. But if you haven't tried them like you said, you need to you need you need to see the Eddie that's about to come back.

Matt Sully:   9:38
Yeah, and I I do think there is Ah, this is it. This is a new era for him. I think it's, um, sort of a re visitation. Or at least this is what I'm hoping. Um ah, there's a There's a kind of a blend here. I mean, there's there's stuff that's gonna be good for Um, uh uh, yes, I'm not gonna say it's a family show, but it's not be quite as vulgar as his original step. But I still think it's gonna work in some of those those older kind of Volker jabs. Maybe everyone. So I don't know. But I don't think he's gonna be the cartoon donkey anymore. Um, so he's been doing this for four decades. I mean, that's that's amazing. Before 'Coming to America,' he had already done 48 Hours. Beverly Hills Cop one and two and two of my favorite films of all time 'Trading Places' and 'The Golden Child.' I mean, talk about classics. I mean, these are just amazing movies, 'Trading Places,' 'Golden Child,' 'Beverly Hills Cop,' the whole series. Between all those movies, I've probably seen them all 30-40 times. Like easy, right? Like, how many times have you

Chris Sully:   10:46
Yeah, easily. I mean, and a golden child like it should have

Matt Sully:   10:48
been one of those weird throw A movies that I would have said

Chris Sully:   10:52
No, don't do that. That's a weird movie to do. And he made it awesome. Yeah, I want the knife, please. Yeah, Yeah. It's such a good

Matt Sully:   11:03
get. Ah, a booger on your jacket. There thinks e naked guy running around with a $20.

Chris Sully:   11:14
We need to do that one on another. And another movie. Really?

Matt Sully:   11:16
Shit, I think they are actually supposed to do another golden child. I think they're gonna do it. So we gotta get out. Yeah, we'll probably do that one trading places, too. I mean, that movie is brilliant, and I've rewatched that one. I don't know. I probably say I'd watch that one at least once every two years, and I laugh every damn time like it's just so good. Um, Arsenio Hall is kind of the odd man out here. He was virtually unknown. Uh, I think to everybody before doing this movie, the most I knew him from was the voice of Winston's EDM or in the real Ghostbuster Cartoon Series. Remember that? I think we both watched that one and it was really good.

Chris Sully:   11:51
I remember that existing but I don't remember watching it that much. Unfortunately,

Matt Sully:   11:56
it was great. Um, it bullying. Pulling Slimer in is like a main buddy character with, I think, a brilliant move because everybody loved Slimer. He was like the Baby Yoda of our team, I guess. Ah, slimer was that everybody wanted a Slimer dollar. Whatever. Um, so a year after this movie came out, Arsenio got his late night talk show, and that's you cannot argue that that was totally off the success of 'Coming to America' because this movie was huge when it came out. Um, and it still is. I mean, everybody. Everybody that's seen it loves you can't you can't argue. It's genuinely hilarious. The

Chris Sully:   12:34
budget for this was only around 40 million and us. It made 128 million worldwide, almost $300 million which at that time were just astronomical numbers. It is, I don't know. Does that

Matt Sully:   12:48
include Is that like up to date numbers, or is it supposed to be just in that year when it comes out? I'm not sure if that

Chris Sully:   12:55
I believe that's up the date, but just on box office, not home video sales, which you think about VHS laser disc DVD, Blue Ray, all those different formats over the years, It's probably made another $200 million just off that. Yeah,

Matt Sully:   13:13
I would agree. Yeah, it's ah. And he probably could have gone off to do, like, you know, he could have marketed this thing. Thio have, like, the moon. But what you have is a move into T shirt. But I was thinking, you know, you could have done everything with, like, that guy. It takes all the he says. You guys want to buy a gold

Chris Sully:   13:31
tooth pressure? You wanna buy some too precious man, it's a real fly. Personal hygiene equipment. I got here and I got a hell of a can dry over. You do. Check it out. My shirt didn't come until until two years. You know, I don't think they merchandise this at all at the time. At least I don't remember ever seeing anything. I

Matt Sully:   13:49
don't think so either. That's probably not even through the studio or anything. That's probably some off shoot. Somebody did that T shirt. Um, but, you know, it's different time. I guess we didn't really have, you know, Eddie Murphy dolls and ah, um, you know, there was no Beverly Hills cop like play set that came out at the time.

Chris Sully:   14:08
You know, that reminds me of something. I've been watching the Goldbergs, which, if you don't watch that and you're a fan of the eighties, you absolutely should. This is everyone listening, but you should definitely. And in that every week, the kid, that's the lead character, his posters all over his walls like time bandits in Indiana Jones and all these things. But every week he's wearing a shirt from that era like he has like, Atari shirt. And he has a He has an Indiana Jones shirt. I'm like, I don't remember seeing any of this crap when I was a kid, I Where was this available? And white And we have it.

Matt Sully:   14:37
Yeah, you're right. I really don't know if the T shirts were a big thing then, but I do remember posters were like posters were our Onley sort of collectible option, I think at the time, and everybody had posters on their wall like you had, that was that was a huge thing. They had the magazines with the young movie stars and stuff and guys and girls are the teen bops and

Chris Sully:   15:00
tiger basher. And I don't think

Matt Sully:   15:02
it was just girls that were picking up those magazines like everybody was interested. That was kind of the, you know, the entertainment tighter, the people magazine or whatever. It's that was our way into knowing what's going on with the stars and stuff. And then I think they came with posters in the magazines. Yeah,

Chris Sully:   15:19
it was almost like a fold out because I would buy him for ah Tiffin, also a singer. And they had, like, the It was essentially the Playboy centerfold, but it was not a center. Yeah, yeah.

Matt Sully:   15:28
A little bit of imagination required Thio to take some clothes off there, but yeah, it was Ah, it was like their head shot. Essentially, um and then Oh, yeah, there we go from there, but yeah, everybody had posters on their wall, but that was that was the thing. So I do think that Ah, you know, Arsenio was great in this. Ah, and and And a year later, him going to the talk show was you know, it was successful for him. Good move for him. You know that that should have happened. But I also kind of wonder if that deprived of us us of another like, really good comedic actor. Like, I think that he could have gone on to do more stuff in movies and everything. And I think he would have been good. And I could totally picture him being in, like, boomerang or even the Nutty Professor. Like he could have gone on voicing donkey and trick, like, Why not?

Chris Sully:   16:19
Greatly. I want you to hold on to God's unchanging hand. God help Joshua fight the battle of Jericho. Yeah, it helped Daniel get out the lines there. Help! You're gonna get off the island.

Matt Sully:   16:35
Um, but if Eddie was always gonna be there, Eddie would have outshone him. And I wonder. This is conjecture. But I wonder if Arsenio kind of knew that, like, he was always gonna be second fiddle. If you will, um, in those roles and took a TV spot, I don't know, but either way, it's possible. He's glad he did both. Really? Cause I I liked Arsenio Hall show. He was really funny on that show. And that was kind of our Yeah, that was That was Ah. Well, I mean all the other one programs for the old folks, right? Like that was the young hip surfaced. He

Chris Sully:   17:10
was going up against Johnny Carson at the time, and Johnny definitely was having all his old buddies. Sinatra was on. And what, like eight year old kid gives two flips about Sinatra now ideo. But at the time, like no Arsenio is gonna have on this new governor who might become President Bill Clinton gonna play saxophone like, yeah, result kinds of random stuff like that.

Matt Sully:   17:30
Yeah, it was cool. Um, so John Landis directed 'Coming to America.' Ah, he also did trading places in 1983. Ah, fantastic combination with Eddie and him on this movie before trading places Landis had done Animal House, the Blues Brothers, An American werewolf in one London which one of the best comedic quarter films I've ever seen. And I think I don't know, but he may have invented that genre like, I don't know of anything that was equally terrifying and hilarious at the same time. Still one of my favorite movies. It's just so good. Um, And if you haven't seen that one listeners than you need to go watch that. Actually, you should watch trading places in Animal House. And, you know, even the Blues Brothers. Not everybody likes that movie. Ah, but it has a lot of value and especially for the era, Getting to see all those musical acts and stuff. It's it's really good stuff in there. Blues Brothers 2000. Me. You can skip that one. Um, yeah. I don't know anybody Solid, actually. And I don't think I ever saw I just kind of knew that was already aware it was gonna be pretty bad. Um, so before ah, 'Coming to America' had also put out 'Spies Like Us.' Great movie 'Three Amigos.' Fantastic. Uh, both of those air eighties Chevy Chase films. Sadly, though, after 'Coming to America' such a huge hit, Landis kind of dropped the ball. He did Oscar, which I actually, oddly enough mentioned last week. I did not know that he directed that until I looked it up in the notes. Because who cares? It was not a good movie. Ah, 'Beverly Hills Cop 3' that I

Matt Sully:   19:11
know you like that. I thought it was a big miss. I don't know anybody like that. It was just yeah, there's nothing happened. It was a weird time for Eddie to like. You got that different haircut and stuff. It was that other movie. He did, um, Metro any until Oh, yeah, but I don't know. I think he was trying to get to. It was it was different. Like the comedy wasn't there. He was trying to do more action. Like Wesley Snipes Kind of rules or something like that. I just fell flat for me. Ah, And then Landis did Blues Rulers 2000 which you know, crap. So s Oh, yeah, For me, Landis. This was his last really good movie. And after that just kind of went away, which is real sad.

Chris Sully:   19:53
How does that happen? Don't know. How does somebody create that many amazing films And then just overnight, like like sans a stroke? Like, how do you possibly live on this earth and just drop off so bad? Well,

Matt Sully:   20:04
you know, it's like you're saying earlier mean there's so many different elements that go into a movie. And I honestly, honestly think that nobody knows. Like until the audience reactions until the money start, the ticket sales start going through. No one knows if a movie is good or not, because you're so into it when you've made it, you've put all the elements in you do your best, but you really just don't know how people are going to respond to it. And ah, I think that just happens. You like you Do you hear that a lot, too. And like the commentary on movies that are successful where they'll be like, Yeah, we really didn't know if this is gonna be good And then, you know, they start reading the reviews and stuff and hearing people and ah, the response is huge. And then, you know, there's the other responses to our It just didn't work out a lot of elements, and they only do a line. You know, not everything does. Um, so this was in 1988. Huge, huge year for movies in all genres. Listen to this list. Die hard Big cocktail twins, Rain Man, Beetlejuice, Bull Durham, Bloodsport Naked Gun, Scrooged, Younguns willow, The great outdoors. And who framed Roger Rabbit.

Chris Sully:   21:21
Holy hell, We were blessed. That was a good year. I mean, come on. And this was a time in movies when you didn't get three releases a weekend. You didn't even get one tent pole release a weekend. You got like, I seem to recall every couple weeks something new would come out. Yeah, so they were just all hits that year. That is impressive.

Matt Sully:   21:44
Yeah, they're big, like it's Ah, it's a lot of good movies and lasting movies like how many times you seen die hard. How many times you seen Big Oh, how many times you seen Beetlejuice? Hell, even blood sport like Bloodsport. That's one of those kind of B movies. But John Claude Van Damme, like, uh, what's Frank Ducks like?

Chris Sully:   22:03
That's an amazing movie like it really is.

Matt Sully:   22:05
It's really good. It's so cheesy. But the actions really great. I mean that that whole the fighting pit like a the end with the where he goes through all the different guys and stuff. Man, it's a lot of fun. Young guns. I mean, that was a man that hit like that was that was just so cool. We didn't have westerns, you know. That was our Western, like when you know our father's stuff we're watching these old Clint Eastwood are, um uh, John Wayne movies, and we're like, Yeah, I don't get it. And then Younguns comes out with a

Chris Sully:   22:36
cruel This is what westerns are. I will take it. I get it. Now bring on Unforgiven.

Matt Sully:   22:42
Unforgiven, man. This great movie, Uh, and great outdoors. And then who framed Roger Rabbit. I mean,

Chris Sully:   22:47
that all who framed Roger Rabbit was I was,

Matt Sully:   22:51
like, revolutionary. Like I know they done. They done stuff, I think. What? When was that big And probably like the ladies. Now they did stuff in, like, the sixties and said, Like, when did Mary Poppins come out where they were when they were combining live action merged with cartoons? Yeah, but it hadn't been done in a long time, Probably because, you know, everybody dismissed. It is, you know, that's it's a gimmicky. It's a throwaway kind of goofy stuff. And then they made it, like, really cool. Like it was well done. Ah, it was dramatic. It was funny. Yeah, it was. That was a great movie. I highly recommend that one as well. All right, so that's the original, um and ah, yeah, Honestly, Like I said, there's a lot of nostalgia from us specifically about 'Coming to America' watching it again. I've seen it so many times. There's so many great one liners in that so many great scenes. The characters are great. Ah, James. Earl Jones is amazing in that, um, Arsenio Eddie, who else is in there is just the dad. John Amos? Yeah, John. Amen. I think was his name. Yeah, he's really great. He's a great actor. And, uh, yeah, I really liked him in that, um uh,

Chris Sully:   24:05
everybody was strong. Even the lead female who played Lisa. I didn't write down her name. I'm sure could scroll to it here real quick. She was Ah, she was very good looking and not bad actress. But just when you're around all those other super strong actors, all you can do is hold on for dear life and and pray you can come across good on screen.

Matt Sully:   24:25
Yeah, that's that's Ah, Sherry Headley. She's actually in the sequel, so she's gonna be coming back. Really? Esos John Amos. Uh, yeah. Um So there's there's gonna be some people returning. Ah, in the 2nd 1 And I'm glad they picked all the people actually, that I picked. Um, so I'm very happy about that. And I'm hoping they do.

Chris Sully:   24:43
I get a good job a couple of notes before we move on. That Ah, one's a story like you mentioned that I have the ah, 'Coming to America' A mooned a shirt, which was actually Ah, Funko put out some pops a couple year our year ago. I was lucky enough that I I've always been a fan of the movie. So as soon as it came out, I jumped on that shirt, which came with a gold Akeem Pop!, but did the whole line, though he just won him in a McDowell's uniform holding the mop, which is one of my favorites. But actually, well, I've only worn that shirt like five times because I don't want it to deteriorate too much. And unlike my third wear of it, I reached in the closet. I'm like, Yeah, you know, today's a good day for that, I swear to you, not the day I war. It was the day they announced the 'Coming to America 2' was coming out. So I have a photo of me at the office holding the pop with my mouth wide open going. Can you believe this? Like it is an only that it did happen happen on that same day. You made it, I guess. So I willed it. Debated. But then recently I found out through a buddy of mine who's a big time shoe collector, that Nike has actually done two different versions of Nike themed Our Shoes that our theme for 'Coming to America' one has the McDowell's plaid on there, and it's It's clearly a 'Coming to America,' like put it in the title and the other one has the African jungle print that's cool and both are are pretty cool looking shoes. But I mean, that just shows you the last thing because I think those came out. I think they came out since the announcement, but they still show the lasting impression that this film, from 32 years ago, has had on pop culture and still continues to. And like we were talking about earlier, it's a shame that there weren't the merch. There weren't action figures there weren't you know, anything other than the posters that we could have had a za kid to just to keep loving this film over the

Matt Sully:   26:34
years. How many kids I don't know. Maybe that's wrong, but how many adults? Probably how many adults would have wanted the McDowell's ah, costumed aware for Halloween or something? That'd be hilarious. I wouldn't wear that now.

Chris Sully:   26:46
Awesome. Yeah, totally. Actually. Matter of fact, every really good cosplay. I saw it at New York Comic Con two years ago. I just remembered, because at that time I was in the funk Oh, Booth and we had a two pack that has him in the uniform, and I forget the other one might have been Randy Watson and a guy walked by the booth in McDonald's cosplay and I grabbed one off the shelf, chased him down as like, do can I get a photo? You holding this? And when he turned around, he had the biggest girl in his face, and so did I. And I was like, Here, keep the to pack. You can have it just because you're awesome.

Matt Sully:   27:16
That's cool. A man. Just think about Louie Anderson and the movie. Ah, he's like, uh, now they got me washing lettuce. But pretty soon I'll be on fries and then was it like 56 years? Then I'll be assistant manager,

Chris Sully:   27:33
and that's when the big book start rolling in. Ah, a little cameo from him. Last. Really funny. Yeah, he was great because he was doing stand up at the time. That's where you first found out about him and the the whole gag about. There's a shoe in the road. Remember

Matt Sully:   27:47
that Louie's gonna be in this one. I can't really, I'm I'm really hoping he's, uh, not on lettuce anymore, but ah, well, see that maybe the actual joke is that he's still washing lettuce. Uh, sorry. I ruined that for everybody, but I'm guessing you are going to do

Chris Sully:   28:04
good to see you like, poor fella. He's got me in his eighties. Be old. Oh, God, I don't know. He probably at least looks like he's in his eighties. I know he's on that, Um, there's a TV show with Zach Galifianakis on it. Between two friends were in the name of it, of course, that ah, he plays the mother on it. He, like, wears dresses and talks in a higher tone all the time. Don't. Unless you a coworker is gonna kill me because she loves. And she's always telling me I should watch it. But anyway, I

Matt Sully:   28:30
got the MTV look at it.

Chris Sully:   28:33
Yeah. If only I could click on a name and it would tell me the complete history of an actor.

Matt Sully:   28:38
Yeah, It's just never where you wanted at your fingertips. Oh,

Chris Sully:   28:42
here. And I'm gonna have it in two seconds. I'm clicking on right now, and that's when your internet goes out right there. Baskets. I don't

Matt Sully:   28:49
know this. I know that shuttle. Yeah, it's

Chris Sully:   28:52
been running for three or four seasons

Matt Sully:   28:54
now. Well, then I can actually pick it up there watching, uh,

Chris Sully:   28:58
you could trust, trusted.

Matt Sully:   28:59
Or at least it's got enough content where I won't be totally disappointed when they cancel it. Ah, all right. So 'Coming to America' to is gonna come out 2020. Do we have an actual exact date for that?

Chris Sully:   29:13
I don't think so. I think that typically falls when the first trailer falls. And at this time we're recording that trailer has not come out. I think what's gonna happen if I had to bet really good money. You and I are going to hold a few episodes before we launch this. That trailer's gonna drop before this episode comes out, and people are gonna be like, Oh, they, You know, they knew. No, we did not. We have not seen this trailer. I'm hoping it drop soon and we get a date. That would be amazing. Yeah. Ah, it seems like a summer thing to me. But it says

Matt Sully:   29:42
in the the UK release states supposed to be December 18th. So they're hoping for a Christmas grab. Mmm.

Chris Sully:   29:50
Who?

Matt Sully:   29:50
That's bold, because there's usually quite a bit coming out. But you know what? I bet I don't know what parents take their kids to this. Probably not. I don't know.

Chris Sully:   30:00
We don't know the rating yet either. They may have decided to go for more of a PG 13 approach on this one to get a wider

Matt Sully:   30:05
audience. True. And Eddie has been trying to invite more people into the realm there. Yeah. Mm. That's interesting, too. I wonder if that's ah, part of the thing they're working out too. Now, they might be arguing over. Ah, small edits to get a certain ratings so they could get a more audience. Anyway. Take out the boobs and a couple F bombs, and you got yourself a PG 13. Yeah. Um, so this is Ah. So about the retake here. 'Coming to America 2' is Ah, 2020. It's set after the events of the first film. So this is actually a true sequel. Ah, former Prince Akeem Jaw for Eddie Murphy is set to become King of the Moon dough when he discovers he has a son he never knew about in America. A street savvy Queens native named Lovell Jermaine Fowler honoring his royal father's James Earl Jones is dying. Wish to groom The Sun is the Crown Prince Akeem and semi Arsenio Hall set off to America once again. Um so yeah, like I said, along with the Eddie and Arsenio Ah, Sherry Hedley. Ah, it's gonna be returning. That's his. His wife, Mary is at the end. Uh, one of the McDowell daughters, John Amos, who was Mr Mcdow, James Earl Jones. Everybody knows him. Uh, sad to hear that he's gonna be fading away in the movie. I'm sure we'll get a death scene. Maybe it will appear in the clouds to ah later on and not give some words of wisdom. Um, he'll be returning to his original rules. Um, Louie Anderson still gonna be there. Ah, probably still on lettuce. Vanessa Bell Calloway. Uh, this was the woman that Akeem was supposed to marry at the very beginning. He makes her bark like a dog and hop on one foot and stuff. Ah, and she's gorgeous, too. Like, uh, yeah, that would have been a tough decision. I think I would probably married her. Ah, and ah, Garcelle Bo Voight. Bove A. I think is one of the flower girls that she's gonna be in it to, um, newcomers will be Tracy Morgan, which I'm pretty excited about, like Tracy Morgan, Leslie Jones, which I am not excited about. I'm not a Leslie Jones fan. Jermaine Fowler. I don't know who this is. Ah, I don't think he's done much before. I think maybe some TV and Wesley Snipes. Oh, man, I really like that. Wesley's in this. He was great in Dola might, um and ah, I hope I'm hoping actually that this might be the beginning of a real comedy career for Wesley because I think he's actually funny. And I was writing that down, and then I remembered Major League from 1980

Chris Sully:   32:45
nine on, and he was wholly raised in That s o. He's already

Matt Sully:   32:50
established as a comedic actor, and I I think this would be not only cool fit for this this world for 'Coming to America,' but I'm hopefully he can do some more stuff in that that world cause maybe he's ah, maybe is a bit over the action stuff. Although I did hear rumors of there being more blade activity later on, but not with him. No recast it. Marshall Lee is gonna be Blade. Yeah, I'm worried that I don't really know details, but maybe it's one of those things. You know, like dancers end up getting these terrible diseases where they can't dance anymore. There's some in their legs. Like I think Wesley probably has something with his, his back or something where you can't do the cool action moves anymore. It's something awful that nobody deserves. But also older is older. Peces. Yeah, that neck a plea and kick my butt, I'm sure, uh, thanks Greg Brewer eyes directing, and I would have said he's a bad choice, but Dolomite is. My name is a superb movie. If you haven't watched it, you need to go watch it. And ah, he directed that as well. And that's also with Eddie and Wesley. And I expect this to actually be pretty decent. Just based off of that. But I don't know,

Chris Sully:   33:59
I It's too early. I hate to be one of those people that say all you you're ruining my childhood or any of that crap. I think those were ignorant comments. But based on the synopsis, I'm not a big fan because just having re watch the movie, at what point is he gonna have ah son running around? We saw all of his activities and there was no whorehouse visit at any point during the film. I don't get it.

Matt Sully:   34:22
No, you're right. I do have a problem. I'm gonna go into that on my my pitches. Well, it sounds like you're gonna have that in yours. Um, where I I disagree with the plot as well. Um, but for the jokes and, ah, the general direction ability. Ah. I mean, I think this guy's an OK choice for that. Hello. Well, all right. So for new takes, this is where we each give our pitch. For what we think the movie should actually be. Ah, it may end up matching what actually comes out. It may be totally different. Ah, but either way, this is sort of our vision of what 'Coming to America' to would be.

Chris Sully:   35:05
I guess my approach to these. I sat down and I really actually type out quite a bit. I hope this isn't too lengthy, but I really tried to think through a movie I'd want to see. Right, So I'm gonna read you. I hate to do that because it sounds a little a little too drafted. But I'm gonna read you my synopsis that I'm gonna give you the title and the director. I'm gonna save that until the end because I think the synopsis is ah, much more important. So 32 years in the future we returned as a moon to define Prince Akeem and his queen Lisa. Things in the land have changed drastically in their time of prosperity and wealth have come to an end. After visiting New York in 1988 they agreed that it wasn't best for Samoon did to adopt any of the outside influence that the rest of the world might have to. I'm putting in air quotes, offer their country because they saw how bad New York was right, but with the changes to their own country, it was time to make some decisions. Ah, Keem and his trusty sidekick semi decide to return to America with their Children. So I do have a Children play at this. Ah, Keem son, who I want to be played by John David Washington. That's Denzel Washington Sun and Sami's daughter, played by Zendaya. Okay, like the ages were kind of workout. And I really like her Cem to find some possible business opportunities and see what ideas they conglomerate from America, which has changed drastically since your last visit. So kind of in this scenario, they have stayed away from it. They don't really have the Internet or all these things. They've stayed much like Wauconda secluded from the rest of the world, right? But But, well, cond is ready. Someone does not. Um, since their first trip was decided by a coin flip and ultimately worked out pretty well, they decided to do the same thing again and land on the City of Angels Los Angeles as their destination. Their journey takes them through iconic Los Angeles landmarks and lands meetings with several large companies to discuss opportunities that might bring more money into soup's immune, including, and this rad some fun. Ah, one. They go for a meeting at a company and somewhere on one of the boards that they go to check in Soul Glo is seen. But it's been clearly marked out for many years because who's wearing Jerry girls these days, Right? So So it failed its out. But you gotta have a reference to solos Summer in there. Then they have a meeting with the head of a film company played by Samuel L. Jackson, in which Akeem and semi comment that he looks very familiar and, as indicated by the posters in their lobby, all of their films focus on bank heists and Robert, it's good we never get the answer on if it's the same guy that held up the McDowell's five times and then finally Oh, no, not finally, one more before the final one. They also meeting with large real estate company headed up by actor Frankie Faison, the landlord from their building in New York. Now move up here. Does your apartment look poor? Yeah, it's a real shit you're loving, and then the finally and this one's gonna twist your brain right here. I love, but I'm not gonna set it up. I'm gonna say it first. Finally, a meeting with one Louis win. Thorpe, the third one of the featured characters from trading places, played again by Dan Ackroyd, who has turned his luck into even larger fortunes and has moved his new business to L. A. I love the fact that they tied it into trading places in the first film and I thought would be really fun to play on that again. Here they're all same universe. So Lewis and Akeem have almost come to an understanding with Louis Win Thorpe the third when another group enters the picture offering an even better deal does Amanda but, as the audience can see has a different plan in mind to take advantage of their trust and take over the country's Moonda for their own benefit acumen. Semi's Children, who are roughly in their twenties, help piece together the plan of this new group, Duke Industries, run by the heirs of Mortimer and Randolph Duke, and eventually convinced a caiman samy that the deal is not in their best interest. Ironically, eyes only the audience want to understand its Akin's kindness in the first movie. That led to the success of Duke Industries, which would have even existed of Mortar. And Randolph hadn't got that McDowell's bag full of cash so they ultimately come back around to be the villains. Even though they're dead, it's still the name of their company that causes the problems. That's great. I couldn't fill in anything else. It's pretty loose to that point, S o I think. Eventually acumen. Samy returned to the moon with a deal in place that will help the country flourish once again. But their Children decided to stay in Los Angeles to help run the business dealings from the U. S end of the deal, opening up a possible part three in the franchise, The focus is more on them and less on Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall's characters. So that's what I can. That's great. I honestly, after hearing what they pitched, I want to see my version more. I think that there's a sluice and weak, but we haven't seen yet, so you never know they could redeem it with the actual storytelling.

Matt Sully:   39:58
Yeah, that's true. And there's probably a lot of ah subplots and stuff that we don't gave us. Hardly anything to go off of. So I mean, there could be so much more.

Chris Sully:   40:08
It be great if they were just messing with us. And that's not the play. All I would love that honestly

Matt Sully:   40:12
could be. You never know. I don't know how Ah wiki like this is who gets to write these things? It could just be some Schmo who was guessing at what Who knows? They're waiting on us to pitch, and then they're gonna run it. Just wait to see what the seller brothers say. All right, what's Ah

Chris Sully:   40:29
Oh ah! Title would be 'Coming' the number two 'America,' which I debated this months ago before we find out that that's the title. So that happened to play out. But it's 'Coming' number two "America' : 'City of Angels.' So at least it stands apart from its original Ah, and of course, Eddie Murphy Arsenio Hall. Then we're back. I think we might have James Earl Jones reference or sighting, but I don't think you should be a main part in it. Ah, and then finally for director big departure. I tried to think of whose comedy I really like. That's telling good stories and having lots of fun with it. And I'm going with Mike Judge, who directed Beavis and Butt Head, Office Space and Silicon Valley. I think he could do this justice. I would love to see him giving a world.

Matt Sully:   41:15
Yeah, I do like Mike. I think, um, I think he is a good director. I think he gets his comedy is always a little bit different like, and I really enjoy it like I like all of his comedy and stuff, But it's yet,

Chris Sully:   41:27
And in many ways office space reminded me of some of the humor in 'Coming to America.' It's a big leap. What I get a vibe there that I think jives

Matt Sully:   41:37
could pay. Have you seen, um, Mike does a Ah Siri's, um Now I've forgotten what streaming platform it's on, but it's just some What's it called? Ah, in the on the tour bus or something like that. Essentially, I've only seen a couple episodes, but basically he goes and interviews. Ah, these old roadies that, uh, we're friends of or whatever of of people like Ah ah,

Chris Sully:   42:09
oh, here it is. Mike. Judge presents tales from the tour Bus, a TV series documentary.

Matt Sully:   42:15
Yeah, so it goes back and interviews people of, like, famous musicians and stuff just to hear stories about them. And then he animates him because, you know, it's my job. And so when he does like the reenactments and stuff and rather than having to go on film that cost any money, he just does the animation of it. And there's some really good stuff, like it's It's It's very good. Ah, I've seen, like, three episodes, and I've enjoyed all of s O Hochman that to you have to check that out. All right, so I agree with you on. Well, a few things, I think. Um So here's my pitch. Ah, and and, yeah, part of my agreement is that I don't believe this whole thing about Akeem having a kid. Uh, I'm not going to see he was a virgin. Um, I believe he probably did spend a few extra hours with his royal bay. There's but ah, but I never questioned his character's quest of finding true love in America. And in that suggesting that he slept with anyone else. Uh, it just seems wrong, like so immediately. I'm dismissive of it. Um ah. Simi Ah was completely upset. I believe he would have kids all over Queens. Um, because I think he tracked a kid around as much as he could. Ah, there's a lot of scenes that we probably didn't see where he was with some ladies. Um, his father. However, King Joffrey, I think that would be a different story. I picture him having ah, bastard child as quite feasible. So with that in mind, here is my retake on 'Coming to America' to a king to be after his father's abdication from the throne, Akeem has taken his place as king of the Great Land of the Moonda. Years into his reign, however, is the moon has suffered a cultural rift the people embraced in western Western culture while condemning the lavish lifestyle, their royal rulers. There's a little bit overlap there with us. The unintentional instigator of the class struggles is none other than Cleo McDowell and his chain of fast food restaurants littering the neighborhoods of those moon people torn between her family and her place, that her king's side, Queen Lisa's happiness, is slipping away with their relationship visibly strained, Akeem considers resigning his king to save his marriage. But his people are in desperate need of unification. The moon does Other leaders lean too far in each political direction to be a suitable replacement for Akeem. And I didn't really ah, creative villain. But I think that might be one of our villains. Is somebody there who wants the throne? Um, you know, so we could have that kind of early on and maybe later, uh, he and Lisa Kim and Lisa never had Children. So there are no heirs to the moon that thrown at least none that Akeem knows about. With a small cameo from J. J. James Earl Jones, the former king lets his son know that

Chris Sully:   44:58
he may have one or

Matt Sully:   45:00
two long lost brothers or sisters that could step into his place on Lee. He doesn't know where they are. The mother's sworn to secrecy over the king's Infidelities, sent their half royal Children toe lands far away from Simona Guess where now, with help from his trusted advisor, Semi Akeem must travel all over America to track down as many brothers and sisters, grooming one to unite the moon to citizens in harmony as the first American Slash the Moon and King after meeting several job for siblings, all of whom are miserably Underqualified. Ah, KEEM finds Malcolm a kind and patient history teacher at an underfunded inner city high school. He spends his days and nights helping troubled students, keeping the peace between the various cliques and racially diverse cultures and the wild hallways of a school and his own neighborhood. When he hears Akeem Story learning his own origins along with the team's plans to find a new King of the Moon to Malcolm, played by Donald Glover, struggles to first believe his newfound brother, then come to terms of what might be his chance to make a huge difference in the history of an entire country. That's the basic plot. Ah, and I really like Donald Glover coming in. I like that guy a lot. And I think he'd be He'd be a great addition. Ah, the American eso. Here's some ah, some side plots. Ah, the American McDonald's restaurants were shut down in America. Patrice McDowell betrayed the family by becoming a big executive at McDonald's, only to surprise everyone at the end by revealing she had only intended on stealing all McDonald's proprietary secrets with hopes of reviving McDowell's in their home country. When she rejoins her family and the

Chris Sully:   46:35
moon

Matt Sully:   46:35
to, however, they decide to take a new direction. They opened a high class restaurant chain called Queen Leases and capitalize on their royal daughter status. That sounds very McDowell's to me. How they would use their own daughter. Simi never settled down with anyone in his reach, an age where he genuinely wants someone to be with in his later years. And I thought they could have a private guide who accompanies both of them on their American travels. Ah, he falls in love with her and, ah, you know, despite Rocky beginnings and the two end up together by the end of the movie, Um, I honestly, I really like this. I think I think there's some good stuff in here. Um, like I say, I didn't really flesh out a ah villain. But you know, there's plenty of drama to work off of, and I think with all the candidates being siblings of Eddie Murphy, that gives him plenty of opportunity to play all these multiple roles because they're gonna look like him. So it's all his brothers and sisters. He could play all these different people. Um ah. And yeah. And in all these different cultures, he could, you know, could have a brother in Texas. He could have. Ah, sister in, Ah, you know, Boston. Whatever. He could play. All these different characters go around, you know? You know, it's been a ton of time, but,

Chris Sully:   47:48
you

Matt Sully:   47:48
know, you could have, like, 10 15 minutes of good, solid gags with all that serious stuff until he finally found Ah, finds Donald Glover. Um, I would have a cz much of the original cast as possible. It looks like they did that. I would leave out the barbershop guys because I don't see how they'd still be alive. Ah, that was on time ago. But I did read somewhere that they actually are gonna be in the movie, which I just don't get. I don't see how you gonna do that. Maybe they'll be like, oh, ghosts. Ah, they'll be like jet. I go splitting the

Chris Sully:   48:23
or or we go back and they help explain how he has a kid. Yeah, Okay. It's during that time they knew something. You're

Matt Sully:   48:31
right. So it won't be present day them. It'll be some sort of ah, like side. Ah, thing that didn't see, Like, something that happened in the original that were we didn't get to see him.

Chris Sully:   48:44
Yeah, that would be fun. Twists to go back and show some of the story from back then. I'd like that. Plus, you know, only work. We know Winters. I mean, we're getting off topic here. We re done with your pocket. I don't want

Matt Sully:   48:55
a couple more things. Well, I want to get into the

Chris Sully:   48:57
okay. Do that. And then I'll sharing a theory at

Matt Sully:   48:59
eso you mentioned Soul Glo. I would kind of like to see Eric LaSalle come back because I really like him. He was really funny in the 1st 1 I just didn't really fit in how he was gonna do. Um, but yeah, I think with this bean. Ah, for me. I see this is very much a drama and comedy. I think we get a real chance here with the whole family and Children sort of things to get some real depth from some characters, but also some really solid laughs for directors. I would've picked Judd Apatow's or Paul Vague. Uh, who honestly hasn't done anything great since spy. Ah, spy was fantastic. Bridesmaids was great, but I think that guy needs a win. And I think I think this would be a good one for him. Ah, but like I said, Ah, the, um What's his name? Craig Brewer. I think that might be a good choice. I'm okay with it Anyway. That's it for me.

Chris Sully:   49:55
No, I I like your pitch a lot. When I was doing mine, I struggled to work. McDowell's in some way and I thought about for a second. What would McDowell's look like? It's a moon dust. I'm glad you played that part in. I just couldn't I couldn't wrap my head around it. I like that. Take. That's funny. Um, going to the synopsis they provided I've got an idea on how he could have a kid that doesn't screw up the original story. What if the old barbershop guys kept the pony tail as like a, um, some sort of trophy that they hang up on the wall and then someone else who would play. The villain comes along when cloning becomes a thing and they clone who would become his son I'm butting in. Air quotes from the ponytail. What's cloning? I don't know. It's just It's a slapstick comedy. Everyone up and

Matt Sully:   50:51
then they mix it with the fur from James. Earl Jones is like Lion Cape thing, and there's some sort of half breed lion. Ah, keem combo.

Chris Sully:   51:02
This is beautiful. What is that? Velvet. Uh, yeah, all right. Sure. Why not? It's anything's over

Matt Sully:   51:11
for grabs at this point. Um, all right, so yeah, I think both of those good pitches I think there's some good elements in there. Ah, I think we will

Chris Sully:   51:19
see, I think we'll see some

Matt Sully:   51:21
of those I don't see. Yeah, they're kind of. And I think it's interesting when we do these two. Who, separately, is that we do kind of hit on the same sort of elements. Eso It's natural to assume that other people are gonna have gravitate to these sorts of ideas too. So I think Well, I think we'll see some of that and we do get to see who's in. It s oh, John animals being in it, I'm hoping is ah ah, key figure. And we do see a lot more of McDowell's jokes, you know, it's risky. At the same time, it's right, like when you do these sorts of things you want todo you know you want a nod to the 1st 1 but you don't want to overdo it. You don't want to just recycle the same jokes. Uh huh. And I'm really hoping it's not one of those You gotta You gotta There should be, like a percentage like a safe percentage. You can do like 10 to 15% of the same jokes, but but

Chris Sully:   52:13
that's it. If you take it beyond

Matt Sully:   52:14
that, then we're all just We're bored. It's and you're just looking at

Chris Sully:   52:17
another teen, Wolf Thio. It's the same movie, but it's box.

Matt Sully:   52:23
That's what we're going to get here. Oh, yeah, and that's that was proud. That's probably if we look up, I am to be. That's the That's the description.

Chris Sully:   52:30
It's Tino the same, but block sex.

Matt Sully:   52:33
Yeah, so there are some fun facts here. Uh, we're ready to move on to that sort of thing, Eddie Murphy said. The sequel came out after attempts to turn the first film into a play. Ah fell through, followed by a pitch meeting he had with Ryan Kugler who directed Black Panther and Creed. Murphy said that although he didn't like Cougars idea for sequel, it got him thinking about developing his own storyline for a sequel. And honestly, if Kugler hadn't been involved, I this I wouldn't have gone to see this very day, because I don't think I don't believe you know, black fans. Aaron Creed like great movies. Well, Creed is a great movie, but I don't see him doing comedy. I just don't now. That's just not his thing. Yeah, so it's very serious. Dude, I'm glad he did. And I can only assume that his idea was greedier and more dramatic and just wildly inappropriate. So

Chris Sully:   53:32
that brings up a good point. I don't know if you said it in the beginning, but the original film was actually written by Eddie Murphy. I didn't say which is interesting. I don't know if he's written a new one as well, but I mean, if and how many of those other films that we listed off earlier on, did he have a hand in writing? Or was that his first attempt?

Matt Sully:   53:50
You know, I did not look that up. Um, it looks

Chris Sully:   53:54
like Eddie Murphy also wrote Beverly Hills Cop, too. Another 48 hours Boomerang Vampire in Brooklyn Norbit Boomerang TV series, which I didn't know even existed and is listed as a writer for coming to America, too.

Matt Sully:   54:11
That's cool. The McDowell's restaurant was actually on Wendy's on Queens Boulevard that was scheduled to be closed for renovation. That production had approval from McDonald's corporate headquarters, which apparently didn't pass the word down to their local outlets. On the day the McDowell sign went up, the manager of the McDonald's 1/2 mile up the road arrived with his lawyer, took photographs, telling the set dressing crew they were going to be sued for everything they were worth. I wonder if that's him in the movie actually taking the pictures. The restaurant remained in business until early

Chris Sully:   54:42
2000 and 13. What? How can that be? Eat now It's demolished. But that's insane. Oh,

Matt Sully:   54:51
but it had to have gone back to a Wendy's. Okay? Yeah. So it wasn't like they left it up as McDowell's. All right. So I'm an idiot. Okay? Yeah, that makes more sense. But a

Chris Sully:   54:59
side note of that A couple years ago in New York they did do a pop up. McDowell's for a few weeks. Unfortunately, I couldn't get to it. They didn't time it right where I was gonna be in the area. Ah, but I always wanted to go in and check it out. I couldn't even really cool. Is that same building? Oh, are in the same area. I guess. If that was demolished, it would make sense. But I wanted to see that so bad. And I never have looked up photos. So those might be out there if anybody wants to check him out.

Matt Sully:   55:24
Yeah, you mentioned Ah, the Duke brothers. Ah, showing up in this and I thought I had read. I don't have my notes, but I thought I read somewhere in here too. They were gonna try and get ah ah. What's his name? Frank Beaks. Um, uh, from trading places, that guy is like the they hire him to, ah, to do all their shady work. And and but he couldn't do it because he was he's gonna be working on the movie or something. Um and so your idea of, um ah of bringing in Dan Ackroyd? I think that's a great idea. I I would like to see them do that, because unfortunately, ah, Ralph Bellamy in Donna meet you are no longer with us. So, um, I think, uh, I think having another nod and there would be would be really funny. And I like that. I like that concept to Yeah, well, during the Duke's back, at least in that form as their company name or something, that'd be cool. Yeah, um, in the credits, the fictitious is abundant. Film commissioners thanked.

Chris Sully:   56:28
That's Cory. I didn't see that one. I

Matt Sully:   56:30
found that after I had written some London Ah, and my pitch, I was like, What would you call them? Someone and I went with the Monday It just sounded right. So it's apparently sounded right to them, too. Yeah, the name of the fictitious or the fictional African country. The main characters of Rome was called the Munda. This name was taken from a Richard Pryor routine, where he referred to a fictional African tribe of the same name. Cool. That's cool.

Chris Sully:   56:54
That's not

Matt Sully:   56:56
I see John Landis, and this is is a little bit crazy. I had never heard this, so I had to say, um, John Landis had a bad reputation due to a string of flops and a manslaughter charge for an accident during the film of the Twilight Zone movie that

Chris Sully:   57:13
killed three people, including two Children. I had never heard

Matt Sully:   57:17
of this before, and I honestly, I didn't go to confirm this anywhere else. This is an imdb Ah, so maybe it's not true. I hope it's not. But that's awful. In an interview with Playboy, Eddie Murphy said, Yeah, he's he's done for fucked up movies in a row, and I knew it spent a lot of money on his trial. I went to Paramount and said I wanted to use Landis, but they had reservations. His career was fucked up, But I said, I'm going to use Landis. I liked the guy. I used to always say that the one fun experience I had with the director and it worked with directors. I really liked Marty Brest, Walter Hill. Tony Scott was with Landers because he plays around a lot of the set. I made Paramount hire him. So So that day was for, and sadly, now we know more, right? So what? Why did he go off? Yeah, this was his only shot at doing anything. And after this, like Eddie was three, only one, probably in his corner, like he was. He was basically I've ruined that's so sad. Like he's probably ruined personally to financially. And then just nobody wants to work with them. And you can't kill people in your movies. And then people won't hire you again. Ah oh,

Chris Sully:   58:32
no, it's frowned upon. Yeah, First enough. Twilight

Matt Sully:   58:39
Zone movie is pretty good, though. Uh, I like that movie. It is. Now I'm trying to envision where was there? So there's two kids. There's kids in that. The last section where they have that weird house that the kid imagines. But I don't really remember any car scenes in there, I

Chris Sully:   59:00
don't know. Well, I can't imagine that if there was a death for one of the scenes that they used that when I

Matt Sully:   59:06
would think they would just cut it out. At least it was something else like this. I think it's good footage. We should keep it in there. Yeah, God, yeah,

Chris Sully:   59:16
too soon. It's It's all right. Um, you

Matt Sully:   59:21
know, I said, Now we get to talk about you know, we talked about the original. We loved it we talked about the retakes here giving our pitch. Ah, and what they're actually doing? As much as we know. Ah, and now we need to honestly talk about whether or not we think this is a good idea that they are going to do this or they have done this movie that is coming out. What do you think?

Chris Sully:   59:49
Once again, I I don't like these comments I see on the Internet like Will I post about this stuff all the time, and if it's a reboot, it gets people riled up or are a sequel, and they'll use phrases like You're running my childhood. Don't I just don't understand it if look att Anchorman Right Anchorman one was a fabulous movie. I'll watch it over and over and over again. The 2nd 1 was straight poop. I watched it once. I'm done with it. I put it away. I still loved the 1st 1 doesn't detract from it at all. So I say while these guys are alive and we have the opportunity, Yes, let's do it. Just do it with care. Try to do your best. Like you said earlier. We don't know until these films come out if they're going to be a success or not. And if it turns out to be a flop, we still have the original weaken. Still, pop that and watch it any time. I'm totally fine with it. I say Yes,

Matt Sully:   1:0:42
I agree. I think it's a great example. Ah, Anchorman. Ah, yeah, The one versus two. Like, we basically just you know, it's like Rocky five. We just don't talk about that one. It's okay. We'll just put that one aside. Yeah. Tommy Morrison. Ah. You know, I'm sure it was great on paper, but Ah, yeah. So I agree. Um but I do. I don't know, man. I have some reservations about this movie. I'm gonna go see it. I will. And I really hope it's funny, but I'm going to sit down with a bit of anxiety, because I am scared that they're basically just going to redo a bunch of jokes. The things they train set up, they're gonna fall flat. Um, but, you know, I'm gonna try and be open minded about that. Said, Ah e I I think Eddie's gonna be fine if it flops. I don't think it matters. I doubt it will I bet opening weekend alone is gonna be massive. I think everyone is going to go see this movie, but with, ah, he's got triplets that's gonna come out the sequel Toe Twins, which I think is a great idea Beverly Hills cop for which I am very afraid of. But I don't know, I don't I haven't read enough on it yet. Um, both of those are in the works. What I'm hoping for is with those coming out eyes that this movie is really good because I think the strength of this movie will fuel the initial ticket sales for those other projects. And granted, maybe the audience is different for each of these movies. You know, there's not all the overlap, Um, but at the same time, if you come out with this one ah, which is, You know, all three of those fall in line with their whole thing here about the nostalgia for these original concepts, these original movies and how much we loved him. And, um, if you do well on this one, the 1st 1 that comes out, then I think we're going to be really psyched about the next couple of projects. So, yes, I do think they should do it because I think there is, Ah, hope that it will be good. Oh, or at least good enough,

Chris Sully:   1:2:56
you know, to add on toe my thoughts. And now that you've said a couple things Ah, Hollywood does, like of the Sequels and the reboots and the re imagines because the name brings people in and I think you definitely have coming to America with the two in the middle. People are gonna recognize that they're gonna want to see it. I think that's fine. Beverly Hills cop the same way Triplets is a very unique one, going from twins to triplets, but it'll really play into the way he plays multiple characters like you were talking about earlier. I think a lot of people frown on this, but they keep flocking to theaters to see Sequels and new trilogies, and it it makes sense for them to try. Because how much could an Eddie Murphy movie cost compared to a Star Wars to make? You know? I mean in Beverly Hills cop, there's probably some car chases and some blowing some stuff up, but in 'Coming to America 2', I don't really see a whole lot of special effects involved.

Matt Sully:   1:3:49
And even then, you know, maybe it's a different era now. But the original Beverly Hills cops? Yeah, they had some cool action sequences, but they didn't. There wasn't like buildings blowing up or anything. These were all like in this probably just opening of the 1st 1 with the cigarette truck going through in smashing all these old cars and Detroit or whatever, then that's probably the biggest cost of the movie. So if

Chris Sully:   1:4:11
you can, you can make these for 40 or $50 million. That's probably half to 1/3 when most of the big movies are costing these days, and if you make that back and opening weekend, the

Matt Sully:   1:4:20
rest of the cost is probably gonna be Eddie Murphy salary. At this point,

Chris Sully:   1:4:24
I know you saw my face. We're looking at each other on Skype. I happen to think What is that? A Murphy work these days and I googled it. Ah, $130 million so he could afford to take on a couple projects himself, and I wouldn't be surprised. I have to assume he's a reduced around a lot of money.

Matt Sully:   1:4:43
That's the way you go once you get some money in Hollywood. Yep. You turn to production because that's where the money is.

Chris Sully:   1:4:49
I would think so. So I bet he's a big driving force for why these air even getting looked at some of these, probably wouldn't do for a long time. Yeah, just a reminder that we didn't talk about at the top. Even though I made a note is Hey, guys, if you're listening to us if you like the conversation, if you wanna join in the conversation, jump on Twitter and check us out at movie retakes. No special characters. No underscores. No craziness. Just @MovieRetakes. All right, well, thanks, everybody. Thanks, brother.